What could be worse than the government paying for abortions?

August 20, 2009 in 2010 Election, National Politics by redhatrob | 6 comments

Answer: The government mandating that ALL healthcare insurance pay for abortions.

That is precisely what H.R.3200 (aka Obamacare) will do. After the passage of the bill, although existing policies which did not include abortion coverage might be grandfathered for a while, they would not be allowed to enroll any new subscribers. New polices may only be issued by “qualified plans.” And “qualified plans” must provide coverage for a minimum level of services as determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Abortion supporters have invented a clever shell game in which some of the premiums collected by enrollees in the public choice plan will be segregated and used to pay claims from abortion providers before they ever technically become government funds. But this is but a shell game and is fooling no one.

Of far greater concerns will be the government mandates that will require ALL health insurance plans to provide coverage for abortion services. Easy, cost-free access to abortion will undoubtedly cause the abortion rate to rise dramatically.

And it will matter very little that an accounting trick will allow the government to claim that no government funds will be used to pay for abortion. The reality will be far worse. ALL Americans will be forced to pay for abortion.

ALL health insurance plans will be required to cover abortion.

Everyone will be required to purchase health insurance

Anyone who does NOT purchse a health insurance will be fined by the IRS and involuntarily enrolled in a health insurance plan.

God help us!

Is this what a majority of Americans want?

If this is NOT what you want, tell your congressman and senators now, before it is too late.

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  1. Rob’s avatar

    Rob on August 26, 2009 at 5:20 am

    I really don’t read your blog just to disagree, but once again you seem to be making political arguments based on blatant lies. The Hyde amendment, which has barred public funding of abortions for 30 years, remains in full force and applies to the health-care bill just as it does everything else.

    The Capp amendment to the health-care bill makes explicit that public money can’t be used to fund abortions. Obama has said that while he is pro-choice, he does not think public money should be spent on abortions. This seems like a(nother) case of conservatives getting what they want but still complaining about it.

    The contention that every insurance plan must cover abortion is just as nonsensical as the suggestion that “death panels” will be pulling the plug on patients. If you’re going to make just wild claims, please point at where in the actual legislation the provision exists.

    The lack of honesty throughout this debate is seriously undermining the credibility of the “conservative” movement.

  2. redhatrob’s avatar

    redhatrob on August 26, 2009 at 6:33 am

    Obama is on record (there’s video of his remarks) as saying that “reproductive healthcare” is “essential care, it is basic care.”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9CCpvj690A

    HR 3200 requires that all private plans must cover essential healthcare services in order to be considered “qualified plans.” (see section 121).

    You keep forgetting that some of us have read the bill.

  3. Rob’s avatar

    Rob on August 26, 2009 at 8:15 am

    Equating “reproductive care” with abortion is not only ignorant, not only dishonest, but downright dangerous. Reproductive care is sexual education. It is pre-natal care. It is a huge and varied field ranging all the way from fertility treatments and IVF to abortion. Obama has *NEVER* suggested that the government should cover abortion. He has clearly and repeatedly said the exact opposite.

    Of course qualified plans must cover “essential services”. That’s the whole point. And the bill goes to great detail to say just how you determine whether or not something is essential. And *NOWHERE* does it give *ANY* indication that this includes abortion.

    Your willful disregard for reality in service a political agenda is genuinely disappointing.

  4. redhatrob’s avatar

    redhatrob on August 26, 2009 at 11:02 am

    Curious.

    Your position is that “reproductive healthcare” does NOT equate with abortion because it includes “fertility treatments, IVF, and abortion.”

    And you think its outrageous of me to suggest that the inclusion of “reproductive healthcare” as an essential benefit will mean that the government will require all “qualified plans” to cover abortion?

    Q.E.D.

    by the way – the Hyde Amendment is only an appropriations amendment. It must be readopted with each budget year. It will be no obstacle to mandating that all “qualified healthcare plans” must cover the full range of reproductive healthcare -> which will mean, as you have so helpfully pointed out above, that all “qualified healthcare plans” will be required to cover abortion.

    Which was the point of my original post.

  5. Rob’s avatar

    Rob on August 26, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    By your logic, Obama is also saying that all qualified plans must also cover human cloning. The whole point of the bill is to define what “essential” means, and it certainly does not include abortion.

    You seem intent on declaring what Obama wants, even when that directly conflicts with both what he says and what the legislation says. It’s obvious you have no interest in rational analysis of policy.

    There is a useful debate to be had. I’m disappointed that you are choosing not to participate.

  6. redhatrob’s avatar

    redhatrob on August 26, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Obama’s eact quote was, “Reproductive healthcare IS essential healthcare.”

    When made in Q&A after an address at Planned Parenthood and in response to a question from the Planned Parenthood executive director of Arizona, I don’t think there can be any doubt what he meant.

    I don’t think the audience was in any doubt as to what he meant.

    And the list of “essential services” which are required to be covered by all “qualified plans” will be determined by the Secretary of Health & Human Services.

    There was an attempt in the house committee to amend HR3200 to specifically prohibit the Secretary from requiring that coverage for abortions be included among “essential services.” That amendment initially passed, then was reconsidered after some arm-twisting by Chairman Waxman and was removed from the bill.

    Why go to all that trouble unless the intent is for the Secretary to include abortion coverage in the list of essential services?

    Of course, the word “abortion” won’t be used, instead the euphemism will be “access to a full range of reproductive healthcare services” which will be administratively defined to include abortion.

    The Secretary of Health & Human Services, btw, is Kathleen Sebelius, former governor of Kansas, who vetoed legislation regulating abortion in 2003, 2005, 2006, and again in 2008. She’s not exactly pro-life.